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This is a bug in many newer tablets from wacom. It only seems to affect sai. 
No matter what you do from installing old drivers to messing with things in the control panel, closing excess programs for memory or reinstalling SAI your pen pressure just doesn't want to work. If this is the issue you are having, I've found the solution that works.Raindew

Step 1: Go to the folder that holds sai.exe

Step 2: Look for [misc.ini]  open it in word pad (not notepad)(Rightclick + open as administrator)

Step 3: Scroll down until you find "Avoidance for bugs of Wacom tablet driver Ver6.0x later."

Step 4: Change the value I highlighted from "0" to "1" save and close.


Open sai again and the problem should be solved.Raindew
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Cintiq wacom intuos bamboo qhd 24 13 22 27 4 5 pressure sensitivity not tapering lack of on off new tablet not working functioning on driver fix solution tablet paint tool sai photoshop 6.3.11-4 windows 8 8.1 touch windows pen & touch control panel


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:iconmichibutterfly:
MichiButterFly Featured By Owner Edited Jan 13, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm having issues when it comes to finding out where  "avoidance for bugs if wacom" stands. It makes me question if I'm even on the right file, considering the one I'm scrolling up and down on contains a lot of confusing signs and numbers.

Edit: I mqnaged to fix it, it worked for a couple hours before randomly stopping, Idk why, the file still says "=1" so idk what to do. Anyone else who's had this problem? And if so how do I fix it? Any help will be highly appreciated 
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Amura-Of-Jupiter Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2018  Professional Digital Artist
It might mean you have too many programs running. Sai will cut off the pressure sensitivity when too much cpu/memory is used. 
If it happens again just try to close whatever else you might have open and it usually fixed this issue. 
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Sathogen Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2018  Hobbyist
god bless your soul
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doompancake Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2017
Thank you for the solution! I did as instructed and pen pressure now works. I also seem to have another problem though, SAI opens but I am unable to make a new file. (I click new file, I set it to something, click OK and nothing happenes). I've tried opening a .png and it works, but I want to be able to make a new canvas without making it a .png.

Any solutions? I can't seem to find this problem online...

Thanks for the pen pressure!
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:iconamura-of-jupiter:
Amura-Of-Jupiter Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
Hmm you're saying you can't start a new canvas?

This sounds like you may need to freshly install your sai. Or possibly the drive your Sai is installed on may be having problems. At a first glance that's the first thing I can think of. 

There is a glitch that is similar to this where you can't SAVE anything other than .psd which is a very common bug. But I'm assuming your problem issimillar
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doompancake Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2017
I seems to be a bigger problem then just that too, thanks i'll try to re-install SAI.

(Most of the text is garbled random symbols, and none of the OK buttons work, I think that's the best course for now)
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Amura-Of-Jupiter Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
Ohhhh I think I know what that might be then
I won't make any direct assumptions but you can try a different copy of Sai over. The one you have sounds like an old version that had many problems with translations.

If you keep those extra folders you can transfer your Sai data over to the new one and all your pallets and swatches should be in the new one
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2015Phame Featured By Owner Edited Aug 10, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
its still not working for me, ever since i got my cintiq at the start of the year ive put off using sai. i tried this method, i updated my driver, my laptop, i uninstalled and re installed and re tried this method but to no avail, idk if this helps but could it be they type of cintiq? it shouldnt cause its just different in size and res but i have a 22hd 
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Amura-Of-Jupiter Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
hmmm that's odd. 
From my understanding this line of Cintiq devices all function near identically. The only difference being the hardware, so mine should be able to have the same error. 

Can you explain the exact symptoms? Is it only sai? Does Photoshop or any other tool work?
Does sai's Stroke stabilizer at S-7, in terms of speed work at all? This would tell me if this is Sai or something else.

The first things that come to mind:
- Make sure your Windows tablet settings are disabled entirely! 
- There's a chance your computer might not have enough memory, try using only sai and have no other programs open to see. Preferably on a restart.
- Your pen nib may need replacing or sticking, mine at one point was failing to give out pressure sensitivity due to this but a quick cleanup solved it
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Anioue Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hey, its not allowing me to save, and that I need permission. I can't seem to open it in word pad either:( Any suggestions?
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:iconamura-of-jupiter:
Amura-Of-Jupiter Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
try right clicking the file and using "Open as Administrator" ^^
That should fix your permissions issue
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Anioue Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
tried that, still saying its denied. Do you go into properties and change something? Or are you talking about opening the program as administrator while you are changing it in word pad? :)
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Amura-Of-Jupiter Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
oh I meant the text doccument! Yes while changing it in word pad, if all else fails I can attempt to give you a copy of mine to see how that works for you ^^
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Anioue Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think I managed to get it finallyXD thanks so much for your help :3 <3 :icondragonhug:
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TheWaffleWarrior123 Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I bought a cintiq and at first it didn't work with sai (I have the hacked free version thingy don't tell on me pls). But than I went into misc and changed the whatever setting from 0 too 1. And that made pressure sensitivity work. After a couple days, It stopped working again. I restarted my computer multiple times and it still didn't work. After that I rage quit and shut down my computer. I came back a day later and it mysteriously started working again and I was super confused. It worked for about a week until my computer updated automatically and the pen sensitivity on my cintiq stopped working again. I waited a day and hoped it would start working again like the last time but I have had no such luck. Than I updated the wacom drivers and it still doesn't work. It's been like 4 days since it stopped working and I am beyond confused. And I don't want to buy the legit version if it's not going to work. Plus i'm only 13 so its kinda hard to just come up with 50 bucks. I am confuzled and in need of help if you know the answer please share thanks.
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Amura-Of-Jupiter Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
this might be because you are using too much memory.
if you have a lot of things open like Skype/Chrome/music players ect. Sai will get bitchy and randomly turn off pressure sensitivity. If you close these programs it should help with this. 

From my own experience, it still does happen occasionally, it just means i have to restart sai when it happens :)
You kind of get a "feel" for what makes it bitchy after a while
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I actually use a fairly old driver because it for some reason has more features imo. This is the version I'm using
6.3.15-2

Let me know if that helps!
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TheWaffleWarrior123 Featured By Owner May 31, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
omg thank you so much you are my lord and savior I owe you my life. I just spent 800 bucks on a cintiq and im 13 so I dont want to not be able to use it on sai. Thx so much fren
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VonMorjo Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This worked for me, thank you very much!!!
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:iconamura-of-jupiter:
Amura-Of-Jupiter Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
Glad it helped! There wasn't any good location of an explanation so I decided to make one for easy access :P
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:iconvonmorjo:
VonMorjo Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It was extremely helpful, and i can't thank you enough for making it ^^
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:iconamura-of-jupiter:
Amura-Of-Jupiter Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
not a problem! I know of another common issue that doesn't have a very concise answer. Might make one for that too
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VonMorjo Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You totally should! It's super nice of you to make this one to begin with, and i can imagine that a lot of people freak out a bit when their cintiqs doesn't work like they are expected to ;o;
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Amura-Of-Jupiter Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
Actually it was a good thing I did because the ONLY forum post I found that had the answer has since then gone offline. :stare:
I guess I can say grats on the Cintiq? :P

Yeah I was getting super nervous when my cintiq wasn't working It took me a day or so to find an answer, finally chose the right keywords to find the answer.
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mapony240 Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
mine still doesn't work i have a cintiq 13HD brand new. and have tried everything i can but i won't have pressure sensitivity :(
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:iconamura-of-jupiter:
Amura-Of-Jupiter Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
You saying you tried above and it's still not working?
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mapony240 Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
yes but 3i know what the problem was and i fixed it. 
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HettyWaddell Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
hi how did you fix it mine still isn't working :(
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:iconmapony240:
mapony240 Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Turns out sai cant work with more than one tablet so i had to uninstal everything. And them only install the cintiq. And now It works. Sai only remembers the first tablet you use with It. And for me that was my intuos small so now i can only use the cintiq in sai.
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HettyWaddell Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you
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keytaro Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2015
oh my god i ve been having this problem for so long ;o;
thank you thank you thank you <3 cant believe it worked ;w; ,3
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Amura-Of-Jupiter Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Yeah I noticed there wasn't a proper "how to" for it so I made one :3
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keytaro Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2015
you re a life saver so thank you so much :hug:
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badjuur Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I can't save it because it says access denied 
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:iconamura-of-jupiter:
Amura-Of-Jupiter Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Try right clicking and use "open as administrator"
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pyrohmstr Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2015  Professional Artist
Neat, this will be useful!
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Amura-Of-Jupiter Featured By Owner Edited Jun 11, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Special thanks to UkuleleMoonMARoypyrohmstrSingingWithSirens
For trying to help in the Forums

Along with the people in this forum. Where I found the answer. forum.wacom.eu/viewtopic.php?f…
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MARoy Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
im still having this problem but not with a tablet...with windows itself...the program oepsn in the background as i can see it in the taskbar but refuses to open on screen
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Amura-Of-Jupiter Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
is it a legit copy? if not i know why.
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MARoy Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
oh wait...fixed itttt, after the 8.1 updates something went seriously wrong so i checked stuff..turns out i had a rootkit..so with some tools
maleware anti rootkit (run the program then..run the plugin..and reboot), then open maleware antimaleware run scan, then delete whatever it finds. 
Finally run troubleshoot compadability, 
and BRAVO sai works again 
i hope this helps someone else 
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